Sky News Newsdesk tweet
A Sky Data poll has revealed 55% of women and 22% of men say they have been sexually harrassed at least once.
A figure that high for men totally explodes the bigotry and misguidedness of the recent #MeToo campaign on social media, in being only for women to do, and a message that only women suffer and men are the villains. Instead of the common sense that there is good and bad in both genders.
How the hell do you think that felt to the 22%? simultaneously denied and treated as an irrational mob’s suspects? The following shocking exchange on Facebook shows MeToo dangerously stirring up bigotry against believing in false accusations –
- While not dismissing any individual’s experiences, the evidence is that such malicious accusations are very rare. Implying that it is an issue of equal magnitude to harrassment or violence by men against women seems really irresponsible, given how widespread the latter is. So I disagree.
- (a woman) X, thank you.
- X, Read the comment by “Thought Criminal”, first in the Disqus comments list when sorted by Best, and the comment by “Riggah”: [shared link: Guilty until proven innocent: life after a false rape accusation. www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11912748/Guilty-until-proven-innocent-life-after-a-false-rape-accusation.html ]
- Skim reading the summaries of reports in the wikipedia article (link below), the percentage of “unfounded” accusations reported by a police force never seems to break through 10%. And there are lots of discussions to be had around how the accusations get labelled “unfounded” (e.g. sometimes this is the outcome when they are just withdrawn, without anything having been proved either way). So I think the female criminologist cited by “Ribbah” sounds pretty credible. [Gave link to Wikipedia article “False accusation of rape” – now look up first what Fairness Watch has to say about Wikipedia.]
- 10% is high. It’s one in every 10 of a lot of reports, that’s high odds and a lot of real lives.
It is more logical to take the term “unfounded” as being used when it is demonstrated, than to clutch reinterpretations of it that clearly are not on the side of the principle of innocent until proved guilty. After those reinterpretations, Thought Criminal’s list of 48 cases is still there, with the reinterpretations making life worse for the folks in those cases and their families.
- No one needs to clutch at anything. It’s a genuine problem with how the data is recorded.
Anyway, at no point have I said that false accusations never happen or that it isn’t a horrendous experience for those caught up in them. I simply said that it was irresponsible to make out that that happens on the same scale as harrassment/assaults against women. And this is borne out by all these figures. The number of unfounded accusations is always far smaller than the number taken seriously or successfully prosecuted.
- So I find irresponsible to call rare any serious injustice that really exists, and needs real guarding against and conscientious alertness to its possibility in every situation.
- But doesn’t doing that risk victims of harrassment/violence not being believed?
- Support services who are not going to have any effect on the accused’s fate can base their private relationship with their client on accepting all their client tells them. That can happen while at the level of judiciality and anything that impacts the accused person, the oldest human rights principle for everyone’s safety is that accusations must never be believed on word, only on evidence.
It is caught as a totally offensive sexism for MeToo’s organisers to assume that no male victim incidence exists, the same as out-of-favour Germaine Greer did on male victim domestic violence.
The men’s figure is likely to be conservative and an underrepresent, exactly because the toxic masculinity mates culture and this feminist PC prejudice against men both together make men feel not socially accepted in stating a harrassment experience. Straight men are likely not to feel socially safe or comfortable with peers to admit a gay harrassment experience. Or, The Big Bang Theory‘s many scenes of women thrusting unconsented kisses onto men they hardly know, are a barometer that unjustly this behaviour is still not getting perceived as sexual harrassment when it is woman to man. How does that sit with MeToo?
PC prejudice against men has impacted on aspie men who struggle to connect socially.
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12 Mar 2019, a year on from above, posted under this Huffington Post story on the Michael Jackson accusations:
- In Britain the law changed re sexual offences to favour the accuser. There are many men in prison in this country convicted purely on the word of the accuser. Some have been in long term relationships where the partner later accuses them years later. The law changed to allow that to happen. Plenty of people have been convicted of this crime with zero evidence at all but someone just saying ‘it happened’. Both women and men should be very afraid about that.
15 Apr 2019 Perfect insight in this comment on victimfocus.wordpress.com, on feminist post “Stop asking me what about men?” –
Feminists tell men they struggle to cope with emotion and talking about how they feel because they don’t express it. Well here they are, and you tell them basically to shut up. “Open up guys. Express it. You might kill yourselves less if you emote like us ”
“Ok I don’t like being judged for being born male. Nor do I like being treated as suspect because I happen to share a gender with some predatory psychopaths”
“Oh man up and grow up, we have our own problems. We’re not here to listen to you whiners. Now let’s try to understand why Aileen Wournos killed and how she’s a victim too…”