will a compassionate petition now get no-platformed ?


(Good news about 38 Degrees first – it has dropped its former arrogant practice of forcing you to join it in the action of signing a petition.)

So – for anyone with a humanitarian conscience against all the barbarity of British border policies in recent time, it’s a no-brainer to have to support this petition, against a deportation to Iran of an autidtic person.

At the same time I don’t like this page’s publicly patronising and insulting description of one of the person’s condition. I think it’s an example of the type of bad description of autism that its scene is struggling to discourage. Don’t you?




Are they going to back it or no-platform it?
16 Jul 2018

Autistic Mutual Aid Society Edinburgh

This post does not yet say this is a bad organisation. It says it needs to show the public that it is not a bad organisation.

Autistic Mutual Aid Society is the relatively recently formed group who started the present no-platforming crisis in Edinburgh around a Ragged University event on autism that was going to feature some nonconsensual medical ideas – for discussion. But he momentum for hunting RU from venue to venue could be watched happening by personal hotheaded decisions prompted in reaction to messages, so was not all organised, had a life of its own.

AMASE has its own event on Jul 10 (tomorrow at time of posting), one of its sessions of public education on autism, directly clashing in time with RU’s event after taking over the time slot at the first venue that under their lobbying cancelled on RU.


Folks who choose to attend the AMASE event, or otherwise to support AMASE, need to find out from it whether it is, or is not, going to be a damagingly purge-happy dictatorship, that instantly rejects or falls out with folks who its leaders have any difference of view with. That would be a character of control and forced sameness,  not a character of mutual aid.

On Jul 4 to 6 both of AMASE’s leadership couple quickly accused me of hostility to them, just because I told that venue, Lighthouse bookshop, on its Facebook page, that on its own stated grounds for not wanting to host RU’s event it must also adopt a position of not hosting any autism events promoting Autistic Pride Day. Which, you remember, is a thing with directly hateful origins, invented by a high-control and purge-happy group that is gone but whose leadership couple are still seeking influence for other projects through which they could damage more spectrumites with rejection and control experiences.

The ethical line I drew at Lighthouse was against ANY autism events promoting APD, organised by ANYONE – see that’s quite impartial.  Of course an ethical curb that applies to everyone would apply to AMASE, but that is no more than equal imposition as their no-platforming of the medical ideas is an imposition on another organisations including any I’m attached to. So if they don’t like it, they don’t like sauce for the gander.

Because AMASE’s imminent event on is not promoting APD (and thanks to AMASE for saying so !), my action has nothing to do with its meeting. So it can’t possibly be an act of hostility to the meeting or to AMASE.

This reply was given promptly. Yet AMASE’s leaders have not yet acknowledged this common sense, not yet withdrawn the stance of accusing me of hostility to them by taking that action. To accuse hostility for a step that does not attack their meeting or them at all, and to leave a common sense reply unacknowledged and leave the hostility charge standing, WOULD BE AN ACT OF PERSONAL DISTANCING AND PUSHING AWAY, of intolerant hostility by them, therefore of quick-fire PURGING. It’s a tactical hostility for group control. Instant falling out with a person for a difference of view on one item. To lead any autistic group in that way is emotional danger to all and exploitation. AFF’s history and collapse illustrated so.

So THIS POST WILL BE DELETED IF AMASE itself posts or otherwise gets in touch to acknowledge the common sense, and to state consequently that we are not on hostile terms. If it does that, it will show it does not push folks away as soon as they have a difference with the leadership on one issue. It will show it is not purge-happy and not going to turn out the same way as Aspies For Freedom ! THIS IS IN THE BALANCE RIGHT NOW.

Maurice Frank
9 Jul 2018

PC no-platforming should not be done to grassroots discussions

There is a controversy happening at present around a discussion event billed to be held in Edinburgh by the Ragged University project. This is a project for grassroots community education by sharing of personal learning insights; “everyone is a ragged university.” It works democratically by having folks give talks with discussion. Personally built up knowledge can also be written about on its website.

Key point is that there is discussion. The talks are not speakers from on high coming and laying the law down. Nor does what they say have the authority of being the project’s view – it’s always just their own view, their own perceived coming from their own learning. SO IT IS NOTHING AT ALL LIKE the cases where a big name speaker comes touring in to give an offensive speech that a targetted population group have no access to answer.

An effort is happening, to do that dictatorial PC practice of no-platforming, to a proposed talk about a rather wacky medical theory about autism. To lobby every venue that gets gets booked to hold it, to cancel and disown it.

Certainly the speaker’s ideas, written as if all autism was non-verbal! don’t match at all the lived experience of verbal able autistics, and our history going back way before modern medicine and including Isaac Newton as one of us. A conspiracy theory attributing autism’s existence to aberrant medicine and appearing to believe it has only existed since the 1970s! – does not match at all the scene’s experience at all levels of ability: after all it was exactly the more severe levels of autism that were known from long before that. Folks affected and their families are entitled to find the theory insulting. But that reaction, itemising the idea’s demerits, can be given in reply to it, both in website posts and in discussion. When given at a grassroots level, not by some remote big speaker, it can be replied to and discussed and autistic experiences not matching it can be pointed out. The discussion process itself is educative. So, to try to gag the talk from ever being given at all, is not educative or democratic.

Ragged University has several writings by aspies on its site. It is very clearly visibly not anti-autistic. It has been treated with sinister undemocratic hooliganism, by the arrogance of a few folks, on hearing of the controversy from peers, acting spontaneously self-prompted to hunt RU from venue to venue! to prevent it from holding this discussion, which as a result will be held in a park – THAT ACTION DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ALL AUTISTICS.

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It creates the democratic problem of who should have the power to inflict the gagging or draw the lines of offence against what can be discussed? Law against direct incitement to hate already sets a line against talks that would do that. That is the answer to anyone who argues, would we then have to allow talks on fascistic theories about race? Hate is socially excluding and hence anti-democratic. Short of hate, excluding ideas becomes anti-democratic, because works against the accountability and analysis of ideas.

One poster against allowing this talk suggested effectively that talks should be vetted for being scientific before they are allowed. The loudest voices against spiritual/paranormal types of idea often want scientific vetting of what is allowed to be heard: but exactly that is not scientific, it places establishment science cult-like beyond challenge and turns it into doctrine exactly like a religion.

Some of the folks trying to prevent this talk had no ethical problem with observing Autistic Pride Day, which is directly associated with hate. As all followers of this site will know well, Autistic Pride Day was invented by a movement that treated many autistics hatefully, and whose leaders started out with a line against harmful medicine but rapidly betrayed that line and proudly made connections themselves with medical voices in favour of drugging us. So what do you make of being okay with Autistic Pride Day with its hateful background, but trying to censor a grassroots discussion event where wacky ideas about autism can be answered and their demerits said in discussion?

4 Jul 2018

Importance of not doing “Autistic Pride Day”: still harmfully sourced

The demise of the arrogant tyranny cult that had hurt many spectrumites, “Aspies For Freedom” in its original membership movement form, in 2013, was for celebration as a victory for fair feeling against evil. It was not cause for complacent forgetting about them, but for eternal vigilance. For they continued to have fingers in other projects, they continued to want to have an influence on autistic life, and at present they again have a site, but not a forum.


Those who don’t know its origins or the story of AFF, + in all innocence have organised events attached to the name of Autistic Pride Day, must not be blamed: but when they find out, they have a duty to feel conned + let down, to pass on the bad news so that all the innocent folks who their activity reached become forewarned about AFF, + move away from using the name again in future.


The following attitude, posted in a forum –

I am not at all concerned with the 2 alluded-to individuals and their emotional responses and leadership style that you describe. I don’t know who they are. As this is the first time anyone has drawn my attention to these individuals I don’t think they have any meaningful significance in how these events are now organised; what they mean for those who take part; nor how these present-day events would be perceived by the vast majority of people who learn of them but do not take part in them. These people may well have been the originators of the idea but are otherwise entirely irrelevant. That’s my take on it, but each to their own

– is wrong + breaches emotional safety. Its error is to imagine AFF is safely in the past to be forgotten about. There is a duty against contributing to suicide risks not to follow the reasoning quoted: instead to take from the renewed online presence of AFF’s leaders the importance of not attaching to or crediting something that came from them. Though it is nice that the poster dismisses the AFF leaders as irrelevant, it is inaccurate to think that because he personally has not heard of them they no longer have significance. That is indeed an autistic failure of empathy + of perspective to realise that significances can vary from place to place.

So, the action of Autism Rights Group Highland, a society in north Scotland, in  persuading Scottish government to fly the Autistic Pride Day flag this year, of course telling them nothing about AFF, is as immorally cynical a stunt of self-promotion as the pigs in the ending to George Orwell’s Animal Farm, who become indistinguishable from the farmers. ARGH did this aggressively unilaterally, without a word at least 2 other grassroots groups who might have responded with disagreement.

Here is a tweet that a campaigningly active autistic wrote, fairly recently, against some other items used by businesses to make a show of concern for autism, because they were linked to Autism Speaks, the notorious cure-and-drug organisation that all self-advocating spectrumites hate: “Why are you supporting autism speaks?? #ActuallyAustistic people across the world have rejected the LIUB campaign as highly offensive. National autism charities and landmarks have dissociated themselves from this campaign, yet you promote it? What the heck?

– Consider that, why it mattered to the sender to send that message: how it’s about others carelessly overriding our own experience and slickly promoting a harmful enemy in our name, the kicking aside of real needs that is felt from that. So that it matters to ordinary autistics’ needs to stand up against it. That describes exactly why it matters to ordinary autistics’ needs to stand up against Autistic Pride Day too, and to care about its monstrous origins.

15 Jun 2018

Place2Be hidden wall against critical email

The child mental health charity Place2Be basks in media approval through the PR endorsement of royalty. Yesterday it was in TV news, pushing for kids troubled at school to turn to it.

Despite all of Savile, this is a present case of the media acting dangerously towards kids. They don’t mention the danger in turning to any proffered source of mental health support – the danger of loss of liberty, of coming under arrogant doctors with power to apply for compulsory treatment powers, and who can consider it healthy that they should take over the child’s whole personality and dictate for personal changes that are nothing to do with why the child came to them.

So to be seen taking care for child safety, Place2Be has to be open to enquiry from the public. It gives an appearance of so being, by having this www.place2be.org.uk/contact-us.aspx whole pageful of email contacts.

No one else than the number who are personally driven to actually mail them, will know that these addresses bounce! They return emails as, it’s even a really rude wording: Email rejected due to security policies.

By this invisible wall it is protected, unless you spend money on recording a paper mail, from ever being recorded to receive questions about safety from forced treatments for the kids who turn to them.

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Look at this #BeingOurselves ! That is exactly what doctors too often have not let troubled kids be. THAT’S WHY THIS MATTERS !

27 Apr 2018

Hans Asperger controversy necessitates fair forums

The new Nazi scandal burst around Hans Asperger gives a critical importance to this site’s cause: uncorrupted fair functioning of forum sites + the whole autistic scene.
(1) Because the personal decision what medical labels each spectrumite is now willing to carry is a highly ethical issue of deep wellbeing when it involves what each feels their label to state connection to.
(2) Because what has been called for? a debate.  “We expect these findings to spark a big conversation among the 700 000 autistic people in the UK and their family members,” as the British reports quote NAS’s Carol Povey, who herself committed a stopping of answering upon me concerning NAS’s duty to publicly acknowledge the existence of wronged child authors.

It is a matter of wellbeing and abuse if any misuses of power, and any personal backstabbings, happen anywhere in this conversation. THE CONVERSATION HAS NOT HAPPENED PROPERLY OR HONESTLY UNLESS EVERY ITEM EXPOSED ON THIS SITE, ABOUT ANY AUTISTIC SITE OR GROUP, HAS BEEN STOPPED !

Thus it can not happen ethically safely and validly on any site that has Gerry Duffy as a moderator and has parked as pending perpetually the question of removing him: or on Asperclick whose owner never answered after promising to concerning this approach to moderating.

So that now stands an undeniable worldwide law interest + significance for the self-voicing autistic scene’s fairness standards.

21 Apr 2018

Fairness in every situation ever! stands cited

The following statement, about the national autism strategy, NOW AND FOR A WEEK PAST stands publicly flyered around in the Bridges region of Edinburgh:

By making a crime report by this route: the autism strategy workers are responsible to report it to the authorities but also responsible themselves, for the strategy work to meet the protection items raised.

This clearly ties the strategy, and through it the authorities, TO AUTOMATIC HAVING TO ACT ON THIS CASE. And with it, and as part of it, TO PURSUE EVERY CORRUPTION CASE IN the Ordinary Life Too book. This is obviously far better than just to report this case directly to authorities having a choice not to act on it. It establishes this obligation as part of the pattern of organising + planning the services for all social groups with needs – that the police, social care depts, OSCR, all the authorities to do with safety + vulnerability, stand in perpetual duty TO ONLY EVER ALWAYS GIVE THE ANSWER THAT UPHOLDS PERSONAL FAIRNESS, TO EVERYTHING EVER. They cease to have discretion not to.

See what that cites publicly? The police cease to bave discretion to choose any other way than the way that upholds and defends personal fairness, in ANY SITUATION EVER. Let’s see that widely recorded shared passed on and cited, so that it’s known so that the state stands held to it in practice.

They cease to be entitled to: be noncommittal, use words like “unfortunately” to assert an unfair position, or call it “their decision”, or declare a logically faultable position their final/closing word, ABOUT ANYTHING EVER FOR EVER, and the suable and world human rights statuses of groups with needs places it beyond governments’ or parliaments’ power ever to undo this: it binds them successively. It becomes constitutional.


Imagine excitedly what this means for the safety of liberty – already just at the stage of citing and circulating the claim, this action makes us all an increment safer. Then imagine when this is fully functional, what it means for forcing that something fair actually gets done about all the cases of bad sites that are reported on this site. The type of future safety it promises you, is that no forum site could keep Gerry Duffy as a moderator and play the trick of leaving the question pending to answer perpetually so that it never gets answered. ANY SITE THAT DOES THAT KNOWS IT IS AN OFFENCE OF ENDANGERING VULNERABLE EMOTIONS.

2 Mar 2018